Well said Cara although I have to disagree with Feral Finster. IMSHO it all started in the 1972 election when Tricky Dick trounced George McGovern in the country that was sick of the Vietnam war. The Democrats clearly concluded that anti-war was a losin' hand. The deal was sealed when St. Ronnie shoved the Republicans so far to the right that the moderate ones left and infested the Democratic party and destroyed it. We've had nothing but Republican presidents since then and I include Slick Willie, The Obamanation, and Nod in that list of Republican prezzies.
I can only hope and pray that the US and our vassals experience a financial collapse before the DINOs set off the bomb.
I didn't say that Obama started the destruction of the antiwar movement, but yes, the process has been going for a long time now.
To be fair, the Team D leadership was hell-bent on making sure McGovern lost in 1972, and they didn't exactly make Jimmy Carter's life any easier. This wasn't entirely the result of the MIC, but also because both McGovern and Carter were seen as relative outsiders within Team D.
Be honest, having the Democrats oppose McGovern makes no sense to me. Democrats had been running things since 1932 except for the Eisenhower years. The only question in my mind is when did the Democrats stop being Democrats and start being Republicans. There is a reason why, with a few exceptions, I've been voting 3rd party since Slick Willy (and his co-president) were on the ballot.
"To be entirely fair, there are actually some Congressional Republicans who oppose the war. You won’t find any Democrats opposing it. And that’s important to know. If you’re a Democrat, you should ask yourself why. Why is the party I support now the preeminent war party? When and how and why did that occur?"
What happened was that Team D was offered the whip hand. Note that the election of Obama did more to neuter the antiwar movement than anything Bush or Cheney ever could have done.
Feral Finster, thank you for your comment and for reading this humble and inconsistent blog. I always enjoy seeing your comments here there and seemingly everywhere: Caitlin Johnstone's substack, The Scrum, Greenwald, Taibbi, etc.
Well said Cara although I have to disagree with Feral Finster. IMSHO it all started in the 1972 election when Tricky Dick trounced George McGovern in the country that was sick of the Vietnam war. The Democrats clearly concluded that anti-war was a losin' hand. The deal was sealed when St. Ronnie shoved the Republicans so far to the right that the moderate ones left and infested the Democratic party and destroyed it. We've had nothing but Republican presidents since then and I include Slick Willie, The Obamanation, and Nod in that list of Republican prezzies.
I can only hope and pray that the US and our vassals experience a financial collapse before the DINOs set off the bomb.
I didn't say that Obama started the destruction of the antiwar movement, but yes, the process has been going for a long time now.
To be fair, the Team D leadership was hell-bent on making sure McGovern lost in 1972, and they didn't exactly make Jimmy Carter's life any easier. This wasn't entirely the result of the MIC, but also because both McGovern and Carter were seen as relative outsiders within Team D.
Be honest, having the Democrats oppose McGovern makes no sense to me. Democrats had been running things since 1932 except for the Eisenhower years. The only question in my mind is when did the Democrats stop being Democrats and start being Republicans. There is a reason why, with a few exceptions, I've been voting 3rd party since Slick Willy (and his co-president) were on the ballot.
Thanks, my friend. Yes, I think you have it. Plus you can never discount the power of the military lobby.
"To be entirely fair, there are actually some Congressional Republicans who oppose the war. You won’t find any Democrats opposing it. And that’s important to know. If you’re a Democrat, you should ask yourself why. Why is the party I support now the preeminent war party? When and how and why did that occur?"
What happened was that Team D was offered the whip hand. Note that the election of Obama did more to neuter the antiwar movement than anything Bush or Cheney ever could have done.
Feral Finster, thank you for your comment and for reading this humble and inconsistent blog. I always enjoy seeing your comments here there and seemingly everywhere: Caitlin Johnstone's substack, The Scrum, Greenwald, Taibbi, etc.
Thank you for the kind words. Sending a *long, slow blink* your way.